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doodlebugging 22 hours ago [-]
I really enjoyed that article. Documenting the entire process helps me understand what the final product should taste like. I love the smell of barley and had never considered roasting any. The fact that it apparently smells a bit like popcorn is pretty exciting.
I am growing buckwheat right now and have a small test plot of rice. I am hoping to be able to get meaningful yields after this first-year proof of concept dry run. I have already harvested enough buckwheat for a nice, steaming bowl of buckwheat. My rice is producing kernels now though I only have a few dozen plants. I am pretty excited about this.
I love how toasting something transforms the flavor profile and use that to enhance flavors of soups and other dishes. I toast pecans, walnuts, almonds, and some garden spices lightly and add them to spice mixes after grinding.
Thanks for this article.
There is also another article linked at the bottom about someone who drank a bottle of barley tea that had been left outside for months.
Roasted barley is also appreciated in Italy prepared like an espresso (Caffe d'Orzo), and in Peru as a kind of cappuccino with brown sugar (Pinol).
big_toast 20 hours ago [-]
Is it well regarded in either place?
I've somehow not come across these preparations. I like barley tea and have made it via other coffee methods. (cold brew/french press.) So I guess espresso makes some sense.
(Also thank you doodlebugging for the other link. I love sora news. I don't know if it's the cadence or playful sincerity or what.)
sborra 14 hours ago [-]
Caffè d'Orzo can't be made in an espresso machine like normal coffee. If you use ground kernels, depending on grind size, It will either clog the portafilter or be too weak.
Instead, most barley coffee is sold in instant coffee form. Most coffee bars will do it with instant barley coffee pods and a pod adapter portafilter.
You can find actual roasted barley coffee (kernels) in supermarkets though, and make it in a moka pot or a french press
sph 16 hours ago [-]
I believe barley coffee in Italy became popular during WW2 with coffee shortages, it retains a tinge of 'poor man's drink', but there are still fans of it and you can find it in any supermarket. I enjoyed it when I was younger, it has a nice full-bodied taste, though it lacks the kick of caffeine.
lostlogin 13 hours ago [-]
> though it lacks the kick of caffeine.
Us weaklings can’t handle espresso after lunch, or we don’t sleep.
I’m tempted to try roasting some barley myself.
eps 12 hours ago [-]
This weakness is most likely due to slow caffeine metabolism.
That was the only practical thing I learned from my 23andme test results and it explained crappy night sleep quality when drinking coffee after 3 pm. Switching to decaf beans helped.
doodlebugging 19 hours ago [-]
YW. I got stuck for a bit there reading some of those articles. Very fun. Good writing about things that I need to know more about. Like you I love the sense that they are trying to have fun with their writing.
Rendello 6 hours ago [-]
I appreciated it when I was in Italy and the group would order a round of espresso after dinner. It's 9 PM! I have enough trouble sleeping as is!
sentientslug 16 hours ago [-]
Similar in Portugal, Nestle makes one called Pensal (cevada) and it’s marketed as a coffee substitute.
lostlogin 13 hours ago [-]
Do you grind it like you would coffee?
riffraff 13 hours ago [-]
Yes, It is also sold in every supermarket in soluble form, there's a Nestle owned brand (orzoro) and a few smaller ones (orzobimbo) which are quite popular.
I should avoid caffeine for health reasons and I usually drink milk with barley, it's quite a decent replacement for caffelatte
epolanski 15 hours ago [-]
> Roasted barley is also appreciated in Italy prepared like an espresso (Caffe d'Orzo)
During fascism Italy was under embargo and couldn't import coffee.
So barley became a surrogate.
But I would not call it "appreciated", the only people drinking it do it to avoid caffeine in the afternoon, and generally they are very old.
huhtenberg 13 hours ago [-]
> what the final product should taste like
To each their own, obviously, but I find it utterly unpalatable.
Especially compared to something like genmaicha, which is absolutely delightful.
freetime2 22 hours ago [-]
For anyone looking to try this - while they sell pre-bottled mugicha [1], I highly recommend making your own from tea bags [2].
It's incredibly easy to make - just add cold water and let it sit in the fridge for a couple hours. It also tastes so much better (in my opinion), is much cheaper, and is more environmentally friendly.
A big 2L thermos filled with mugicha and ice is a great way to stay cool in the summer.
It’s a well-known East Asian trope but I still reminisce about going to going to my grandmas house in summer and opening the fridge to drink some home made ice cold mugicha!
wahnfrieden 20 hours ago [-]
Even better to avoid the tea bags which are full of microplastics (though they will impart less when unheated)
eru 14 hours ago [-]
They make tea bags from paper, too.
wahnfrieden 7 hours ago [-]
Most paper tea bags contain plastic and a carcinogen
> Most paper tea bags also have plastic fibers used in the sealant in addition to these nylon and PET plastic tea bags.
> Even paper tea bags have an unsettling substance called epichlorohydrin added to them in order to keep them from bursting.
It's like how some people think canned drinks are better than plastic bottles (even though they're lined in plastic), or that disposable coffee cups are made from paper (lined with plastic), though the tea bag misconception is more common than these
sbinnee 20 hours ago [-]
Koreans also say "tea" (차) to what supposed to be called infusion in English. Barley, brown rice, corn, Solomon's seal, and jack bean are common, but there are many more. I was confused when I was communicating about Korean tea at first in English. I introduced Korean teas, but for them they didn't have tea leaves thus not tea but infusion. If you don't know about brown rice green tea, I recommend it. It is literally a mix of green tea and brown rice. You should be able to find it in Japanese, Korean, or Chinese grocery stores.
rahimnathwani 18 hours ago [-]
I was born in London. I'm surprised to hear English people were confused (or pedantic?) about the use of the word tea to describe an infusion.
It's common to hear the phrase 'herbal tea', referring to things that have no tea leaves.
Without it this joke wouldn't be possible: "Why do anarchists drink herbal tea?"
lostlogin 13 hours ago [-]
I had to Google it. It’s a goodie.
‘Proper tea is theft’
rahimnathwani 11 hours ago [-]
Please delete this if you can. I think people need at least 5 seconds between seeing the joke and the punchline reveal.
lostlogin 6 hours ago [-]
Sorry, I only just saw this and it’s been too long and I can’t.
globular-toast 17 hours ago [-]
It is quite common to refer to any infusion, apart from coffee, as "tea", but you do have to be aware of context. A "cup of tea" is always English black tea, possibly with milk and/or sugar. But when offered a tea it's acceptable to question whether any infusions are available (often caffeine free) and this then may be referred to as "your tea". It is not acceptable to ask about coffee, which is not considered an infusion, unless explicitly offered, but even so, be prepared to get instant coffee unless you happened to spy a coffee machine or some beans.
wahnfrieden 20 hours ago [-]
I get high quality brown rice mix (genmaicha) in Japan directly from growers, which is packaged separately from the tea leaves. You can mix it as you use it and to the ratio that you like and which suits the tea. And adjust for less tea if wanting to avoid caffeine in the evening. (Try to avoid tea bag products, also - besides quality challenges, most tea bags have an enormous amount of microplastics.)
socalgal2 14 hours ago [-]
What a strange way to write a headline. “Providence RH only has 2 tortilla makers. we visited one to see how tortillas are made”.
Yea, Tokyo is not known for being a tea growing spot
I guess I’m being too picky but the headline sounds like clickbait to me. a less clickbait title would just be something like: “We visited a Barley Tea factory to see how it’s made”.
eru 14 hours ago [-]
> Tokyo is not known for being a tea growing spot
Keep in mind that mugicha is made purely from barley. No Camellia sinensis involved at all.
rtpg 13 hours ago [-]
There’s s fun subgenre of blog titles in Japanese like なんとか作ってみた／やってみた. Like “we tried something”/“we did something” etc
A great sort of tone setter title format. Basically you know you’re about to just read someone talk about their experience in a casual way. Feel like everyone should try writing blog post titles like that
“I installed Arch Linux on my toaster” “I dug a whole in my back yard” “We made a very big paper airplane” is going to lead to very interesting blog post vibes
numpad0 7 hours ago [-]
English equivalent of that is DIY xyz or xyz for fun and profit, it's just a thing-comma-Japan-thing.
14 hours ago [-]
hbarka 1 days ago [-]
Also called boricha on Korean. Can find in local H Mart.
I have not tried the Japanese roasted barley variety but houjicha, roasted green tea, is excellent and can find in Japantown.
CarVac 24 hours ago [-]
I consume copious amounts of cold mugicha. It's amazingly refreshing and very cheap.
momentmaker 9 hours ago [-]
Apparently it has its own holiday.
June 1 is officially "Mugicha Day" (麦茶の日), designated back in 1986 by the barley tea manufacturers' cooperative, and a MyVoice survey has it as the #1 summer drink for 40%+ of Japanese respondents, per Unseen Japan [0].
Interesting roasting process with high heat 2x for 1 minute. Quite different than say kilning pilsner malt at low heat for a much longer time. Sure speeds up production, I bet!
rectang 23 hours ago [-]
It's not the same, but I still remember the first time I was served genmai cha (roasted rice tea) at a sushi restaurant. I loved it and inquired, the server was kind enough to show me the actual tea bag — it was Yamamotoyama. Available lots of places in the US, but I used to buy it at a Japanese grocery store.
gcanyon 10 hours ago [-]
I love barley in soup. I'd rather just eat it :-)
Hrysvald 1 days ago [-]
I wonder if you can get this outside Japan. I'd love to try some.
stock_toaster 1 days ago [-]
Search for "ITO EN Mugicha Barley Tea".
There are other brands of course, but I enjoy this one and it is easy to get at my local asian foods market (as well as online).
killingtime74 1 days ago [-]
You can find it at many Asian groceries worldwide. It's also not exclusively Japanese
ZeWaka 1 days ago [-]
They carry it at my local HMART.
1 days ago [-]
steveBK123 12 hours ago [-]
Iced mugicha on a warm day is fantastic
sakuraiben 1 days ago [-]
so cool! big fan of barley tea growing up with it
drivingmenuts 1 days ago [-]
Paolo from Tokyo (https://www.youtube.com/@PaolofromTOKYO) has a ton of videos about various Japanese businesses, usually focused around the job of one person.
I am growing buckwheat right now and have a small test plot of rice. I am hoping to be able to get meaningful yields after this first-year proof of concept dry run. I have already harvested enough buckwheat for a nice, steaming bowl of buckwheat. My rice is producing kernels now though I only have a few dozen plants. I am pretty excited about this.
I love how toasting something transforms the flavor profile and use that to enhance flavors of soups and other dishes. I toast pecans, walnuts, almonds, and some garden spices lightly and add them to spice mixes after grinding.
Thanks for this article.
There is also another article linked at the bottom about someone who drank a bottle of barley tea that had been left outside for months.
https://soranews24.com/2023/05/02/we-try-a-half-drunk-bottle...
I love stuff like that! Thanks!
I've somehow not come across these preparations. I like barley tea and have made it via other coffee methods. (cold brew/french press.) So I guess espresso makes some sense.
(Also thank you doodlebugging for the other link. I love sora news. I don't know if it's the cadence or playful sincerity or what.)
Instead, most barley coffee is sold in instant coffee form. Most coffee bars will do it with instant barley coffee pods and a pod adapter portafilter.
You can find actual roasted barley coffee (kernels) in supermarkets though, and make it in a moka pot or a french press
Us weaklings can’t handle espresso after lunch, or we don’t sleep.
I’m tempted to try roasting some barley myself.
That was the only practical thing I learned from my 23andme test results and it explained crappy night sleep quality when drinking coffee after 3 pm. Switching to decaf beans helped.
I should avoid caffeine for health reasons and I usually drink milk with barley, it's quite a decent replacement for caffelatte
During fascism Italy was under embargo and couldn't import coffee.
So barley became a surrogate.
But I would not call it "appreciated", the only people drinking it do it to avoid caffeine in the afternoon, and generally they are very old.
To each their own, obviously, but I find it utterly unpalatable.
Especially compared to something like genmaicha, which is absolutely delightful.
It's incredibly easy to make - just add cold water and let it sit in the fridge for a couple hours. It also tastes so much better (in my opinion), is much cheaper, and is more environmentally friendly.
A big 2L thermos filled with mugicha and ice is a great way to stay cool in the summer.
[1] https://amzn.asia/d/04ZC4opX
[2] https://amzn.asia/d/0gF1wDf8
> Most paper tea bags also have plastic fibers used in the sealant in addition to these nylon and PET plastic tea bags.
> Even paper tea bags have an unsettling substance called epichlorohydrin added to them in order to keep them from bursting.
It's like how some people think canned drinks are better than plastic bottles (even though they're lined in plastic), or that disposable coffee cups are made from paper (lined with plastic), though the tea bag misconception is more common than these
It's common to hear the phrase 'herbal tea', referring to things that have no tea leaves.
Without it this joke wouldn't be possible: "Why do anarchists drink herbal tea?"
‘Proper tea is theft’
Yea, Tokyo is not known for being a tea growing spot
I guess I’m being too picky but the headline sounds like clickbait to me. a less clickbait title would just be something like: “We visited a Barley Tea factory to see how it’s made”.
Keep in mind that mugicha is made purely from barley. No Camellia sinensis involved at all.
A great sort of tone setter title format. Basically you know you’re about to just read someone talk about their experience in a casual way. Feel like everyone should try writing blog post titles like that
“I installed Arch Linux on my toaster” “I dug a whole in my back yard” “We made a very big paper airplane” is going to lead to very interesting blog post vibes
I have not tried the Japanese roasted barley variety but houjicha, roasted green tea, is excellent and can find in Japantown.
June 1 is officially "Mugicha Day" (麦茶の日), designated back in 1986 by the barley tea manufacturers' cooperative, and a MyVoice survey has it as the #1 summer drink for 40%+ of Japanese respondents, per Unseen Japan [0].
[0] https://unseen-japan.com/mugicha-japanese-barley-tea-history...
There are other brands of course, but I enjoy this one and it is easy to get at my local asian foods market (as well as online).